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And here's the defining statement straight from the horse's mouth which I think is from the HORSE'S ASS himself. ERIC "JACK OFF" CRISP. The young punk who thinks he's God's gift to pool players who need HIS cues. Do you think this explanation of WHY you're a JACK OFF is really the free pass to BE a JACK OFF and have people accept it while begging to give you their money? For WHAT? What YOU THINK is the best cue out there? ROTFLMFAO!

"I personally don't like giving ETA's. It's nothing to do with me trying to screw somebody or make things difficult for them. It's about me knowing myself & being able to pattern & predict my lifestyle. Things happen. I'm a full time dad to a 3yr old boy & 15yr. old girl, & husband to an active duty military wife. I can tell you that your cue will be completed on January 3 11, but I know dang well something in life is going to require my time that I hadn't planned for. That means your date just got pushed back. It can happen over & over & over again. Is it my fault? Yeah, I guess it is because I prioritize myself & my family higher than your cue. Will that change? Never. So what can be done about it? All I can do is be honest & tell people i'll try my best but can't make promises. As such, I won't ask for deposits.

I know I cannot give realistic deadlines, so I don't ask for money until the cue is complete. That's not good enough for some people, and that's ok with me. I'm not pretending to be anything i'm not. Others are ok with it, but find the wait is more than they were ready for. That's ok, too. They have no deposit & are free to walk anytime they want with no hard feelings from me. My goal is to ensure we are all on the same page. I don't ever pressure anybody into buying, and I appreciate when i'm not pressured to build.

I know this isn't the typical arrangment. It's not very "business" like. But i'm not Wal-Mart. I'm a one man show & cues are not at the top of my priorities in life. I can't tell my co-worker to cover my load while i'm out. I suspect a lot of other cuemakers are in the same boat as me but they attempt to be more "professional" by offering tighter timelines & such. It gets them into trouble with customers, though, when things in life happen that prevent them from keeping their promises. It sucks. But it is what it is. They make promises they cannot keep, and it's not because they are bad people or even bad managers of their time. It's just that life happens unexpectedly & it takes priority over cues. Most folks are understanding & deal with it. Some are jerks & wanna ruin the cuemaker in public because of it. But like I said, it is what it is. It's cuemaker time. It's a one man show & no matter how much he pretends he's a professional business man, as soon as his family needs him he dumps the cues until he can resume work again. Personally, I prefer to clear the air right away & let people know what to expect, which is the unexpected. Right or wrong, it's the only way I know to keep everybody on the same page. It's not very professional or business savy, but if you want a cue from me then be ready for the brutal honesty & unexpected time delays. It is what it is.

Hopefully this makes some sense without stirring any drama. The biggest problem with builder/buyer relationships is misunderstandings & false expectations. Avoiding it saves a lot of trouble.

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!

lol... yeah I'm an idiot. I put him on my foe list and didn't realize that's the "ignore" feature. He should be banned though... when people get that personal and idiotic with their attacks, they deserve it.

You know, I read that when he first posted it and, since you posted it, I read it again. He's not being a jerk, he's being honest and blunt. There is a big difference. I did not see how he was glorifying himself in any way, shape, or form. He build cues when he can but family comes first. As long as the buyer knows that, there's no issues down the road. What's wrong with that?

I agree. Eric has his priorities in order and he is being dead honest with his customers. What more can you ask from anybody? He doesn't take deposits and any customer has the right to walk at any time.
I think Wyatt is being the "Jack Off".

I never said he was glorifying himself in that post, he does it in so many other ways in different threads and posts and has been doing it for years.

Somewhere in one of those threads I read YOUR total output for the year in number of cues made annually and in repairs. It blew me away and I immediately thought you should be the poster boy for dedication, perserverance, and keeping the nose to the grindstone. Now, I do realize every cuemaker doesn't even have the opportunity or requests for that much work to be done, so you may be in a different league.

That having been said, I'm willing to wager big money that YOU also have a private life with family and activities that you'd like to do instead of working on cues but I've never seen a post from you that states it all comes first and fuck the customer if he wants his work done in a timely fashion, although not posted that exact way, but the underlying meaning is there. Fact is I've never seen a post from ANY cuemaker or anyone in ANY business or line of work that has stated anything of that nature even though ALL of us would like to be JACK OFFS and do whatever the hell we want at any time.

Please don't make excuses for him because it means that it's acceptable for EVERY employed person in this country to do whatever the hell they want whenever the hell they want to do it as long as they're "HONEST" and tell you up front what their priorities in life are in order to be a JACK OFF instead.

Would YOU find that acceptable from the companies and individuals YOU rely on for goods, services, and repairs whether for your business, home, car, or anything else?

EDIT:
I just found your post on output:

On average, I build 125 Rat cues a year. I also build another line in the catalog called our "hustler pro" cues. I build another 125-150 of those. This is in addition to all of the repairs. All without help or CNC. I am efficient and dedicated.

Yes, you ARE efficient and dedicated. YOU have my total respect. Please don't make excuses for others.

Screw you, Rich. You and I have NEVER seen eye to eye on anything, never will, and don't like one another. I wouldn't expect anything differently from you.

Hey Rich, do you own any of the Blue Book of Cues? Do you see how many cuemakers are in there that have been doing it for years and REALLY know how to make an outstanding cue? Every one on them have a private life and personal priorities. They just aren't JACK OFFS with an upfront disclosure on "WHY I'M A JACK OFF AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR CUES UNTIL I'M DAMN GOOD AND READY TO DO THEM AT MY OWN SPEED" like ERIC "JACK OFF" CRISP.

A buyer would have to be an absolute deranged nut hugging moron to put up with that shit up front.

Wake the fuck up, Rich. You got a better and nicer cue yourself from Cory Barnhart. He has newborns also along with a wife and doesn't make excuses. Why? Because he's not a JACK OFF. He shows responsibility, dedication, the well being, and happiness to BOTH his family AND customers.

Wow - that thread started out realy interesting with things about cuemaking,
and then somebody got completely crazy and is going off - what a jerk

@Wyattearp
what the hell has Eric done to you - seems like he was not willing to make you a cue
and you are going crazy about that I would understand Eric

@Eric,
thanks for the explenation about why you think to pre-buy a full splice would be o.k.,
but I am still not with you on that. Expensive and good - o.k., the buyer will pay if its worth it.
I still think it should all be made by the cuemaker himself, that would be a "cuemaker" in my eyes.
The other guy would be something like a "cueassembler", or not !?

Eric"h"

Is there a pharmacist in the house? I think Billy lost his meds again.

And there YOU go again Murray...using that same old worn out put down. I told you about that before and you keep forgetting. Btw Murray...you run a VERY successful and profitable company/business...you don't tell the customers they'll get what's coming to them whenever you damn well get around to it because you have more important personal priorities, do you?

Wyatt....(thinking Murray needs to start taking some of those meds for Alzheimers)

Here's a new one that isn't necessarily old and worn out.

You suck balls Billy. Big, hairy, sweaty balls. No one likes you. Feel free to leave at any time. You're not wanted. Fuck you.

B <------ thinks the best part of this is that Billy search, copied, and posted (in RED) an older post by Eric as a way of proving his point... yet everyone else reads it and says 'I don't see what's so wrong with what Eric is saying'. lol

I've looked into it as well and it is just not cost effective for us to make our own full splice blanks. I even have all the machinery needed and it is still not cost effective. Like Eric said, if someone wants to pay $1500 for a SP, then all is well. The problem is is that no one is willing to pay that. Just the learning curve alone has kept me away.

Ya know nobody addressed how dangerous it is to cut the blanks. Depending on what machinery you use sharp spears of wood can literally come flying out at you.

John

You may wish to rethink this position slightly, Eric"h". From a players standpoint, and not that of a collector...if you pay attention to the Wanted/For Sale section over at the other place...I have seen more of the Blackcreek full splices back up for resale pretty darn quickly. And those blanks are made in-house, and unavailable for sale. While they look real good...especially the older ones he was doing with the sharp point bottoms, it tells me that there is something else going on there...otherwise people would be hangin' on to them. At one point, there was almost a glut of these cues being offered for resale.

Also, I do not understand why the Davis blanks get a 'pass', just because of his history. There are some makers who will not work with them. Personally, I find the chunky outer veneer at the point bottoms a turn-off. I would rather have uneven points tips, than chunky point bottoms...but to each their own, I guess.

What you don't see is in the W/FS is a lot of Prather full spliced blanked cues up for resale...I am trying to remember if there have been any in the recent past at all. This may be because Prather makes a very solid full splice blank, and when completed, makes terrific playing cues. People hang onto them. Enough makers must have enough respect for Prather for them to win the ACA award this year.

Now Ed Prewitt is doing some really nice looking full splices that he builds from the ground up, and they're pricey. The work appears to be extremely tight...I have no clue how they play, as feedback on his cues is pretty rare.

When a maker is working with a pre-made full splice blank, I think the attention to the whole process is more intense. It's not like you can just cut out the handle and replace it because it's hidden under a wrap should the blank move.

Just my .02 worth not that anyone really cares.

Lisa

Wasting your time. I'm a loser asshole & always will be, just for you. BTW, I think you got a man crush on me. You sure are passionate about me. Seriously, you spend a LOT of time reading my posts & writing up these hate letters. It's kinda creepy.