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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:48 pm 
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Excellent, I had seen another thread on this topic, it was well received.


Whatever, SANDBAGGER :lol:


hahahahaha, sometimes I'm a good practice partner. :mrgreen:


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Michael Webb wrote:
Koop wrote:
Michael Webb wrote:
Excellent, I had seen another thread on this topic, it was well received.


Whatever, SANDBAGGER :lol:


hahahahaha, sometimes I'm a good practice partner. :mrgreen:


Blah, blah, I'm a B player, blah, blah...rackem Koop...LOL

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:01 pm 
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[quote="Koop
Whatever, SANDBAGGER :lol:[/quote]

hahahahaha, sometimes I'm a good practice partner. :mrgreen:[/quote]

Blah, blah, I'm a B player, blah, blah...rackem Koop...LOL[/quote]

I got lucky, I had my eyes closed, I was shooting unconsciously, It was a good day,

You buying any of these options. :lol:


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Michael Webb wrote:
hahahahaha, sometimes I'm a good practice partner. :mrgreen:

Blah, blah, I'm a B player, blah, blah...rackem Koop...LOL

I got lucky, I had my eyes closed, I was shooting unconsciously, It was a good day,

You buying any of these options. :lol:


EFFING LIAR....

Rackem Koop!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Hhmmmm.
I don't want to derail this thread in any way, but i do have a question.

Halfway between recuts and veneers, there is a method of "veneering" for points, where there is no line, from where the 2 veneers meet, because one piece of wood (1 per veneer in the shape of a thin V) is put in under the point before the point is dropped in on top of them.
Tony Sciannella does this, i am wondering if other cuemakers also do this and if so, will this topic be covered?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:49 pm 
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Tony does recut points and that will be covered later.

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Hhmmmm.
I don't want to derail this thread in any way, but i do have a question.

Halfway between recuts and veneers, there is a method of "veneering" for points, where there is no line, from where the 2 veneers meet, because one piece of wood (1 per veneer in the shape of a thin V) is put in under the point before the point is dropped in on top of them.
Tony Sciannella does this, i am wondering if other cuemakers also do this and if so, will this topic be covered?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:10 am 
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Um...ok. I have a Black Boar with recut points.

This is different.
I guess not everyone knows of this, but that's ok. Was just wondering if it would be a part of the veneering presentation in case you did.

I'll send you a pm. as i don't want to derail the thread.

Thanks for the reply.

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Murray Tucker wrote:
I am going to start off by showing components and techniques that I use. I encourage others to add to the content of the post.


Ok. Can't send PM's with pictures.

I was hesitant to post this drawing i just did, but after reading this and seeing that input was welcomed, i am going to go ahead and post it.

Let me make a disclaimer that i am not a cue builder.
It's just a twist on what i assume is the traditional method of doing veneers as it was explained to me by Tony, so that no join line is seen at the tip of the point where the veneers come together.

Food for thought.


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There is someone on here that does a one piece veneer. Hopefully he'll chime in.

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I've never used that method before. Someone else will have to jump in when we get to the point section in a couple of weeks.

SUPERSTAR wrote:
I was hesitant to post this drawing i just did, but after reading this and seeing that input was welcomed, i am going to go ahead and post it.

Let me make a disclaimer that i am not a cue builder.
It's just a twist on what i assume is the traditional method of doing veneers as it was explained to me by Tony, so that no join line is seen at the tip of the point where the veneers come together.

Food for thought.

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SUPERSTAR wrote:
Murray Tucker wrote:
I am going to start off by showing components and techniques that I use. I encourage others to add to the content of the post.


Ok. Can't send PM's with pictures.

I was hesitant to post this drawing i just did, but after reading this and seeing that input was welcomed, i am going to go ahead and post it.

Let me make a disclaimer that i am not a cue builder.
It's just a twist on what i assume is the traditional method of doing veneers as it was explained to me by Tony, so that no join line is seen at the tip of the point where the veneers come together.

Food for thought.



There are a couple of popular methods in doing re-cut and or re-milled veneers, When it's done in seperate sections then put together all at once in the forearm, It is re-milled, When they are installed into the forearm and turned and re-cut for each additional colored hard wood, It is re-cut.


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Michael Webb wrote:

There are a couple of popular methods in doing re-cut and or re-milled veneers, When it's done in seperate sections then put together all at once in the forearm, It is re-milled, When they are installed into the forearm and turned and re-cut for each additional colored hard wood, It is re-cut.


Thanks for the terminology clarification.
Never would have known that everything getting put in all at once like this, actually had a term.

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Murray, would this thread be appropriate for gluing the veneers, cutting them, forming the V's, etc.? Or is that the next thread?

Scott <<== still out of town, but thinking ahead

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On the subject of veneers; One can actually use mitered veneers and recuts in the same cue.
Mitered veneers can also be "recut". It's (literally) splitting hairs to do so but now & then you'll find
veneer that isn't consistent in thickness. That can and often is the reason for the intermediate points
being different lengths. "Intermediate points" are those formed by the veneer itself.

On the subject of recuts: A picture is worth a buncha words words. Maybe the link below will help some.
http://www.waynecustomcues.com/recut-points.html


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wayne wrote:
On the subject of veneers; One can actually use mitered veneers and recuts in the same cue.
Mitered veneers can also be "recut". It's (literally) splitting hairs to do so but now & then you'll find
veneer that isn't consistent in thickness. That can and often is the reason for the intermediate points
being different lengths. "Intermediate points" are those formed by the veneer itself.

On the subject of recuts: A picture is worth a buncha words words. Maybe the link below will help some.
http://www.waynecustomcues.com/recut-points.html

great web page !
i do have a question
you went to the recut because of the eratic veneers. correct? im sure that wasnt your only reason though?
dont know if you know this, but i dont do points, pointy points :lol:

butterflies are the same principle, but i also ran into that problem with eratic veneers
licked that problem by running my veneers thru my drum sander
i wouldnt swear that they are perfect, but definitely better than they were raw

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