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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:33 am 
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In this segment I'm going to show how trim rings are made. The first step is to cut slots in the base material. You can see how that is done in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HoAPYE4pbg

Once the slots are cut the inlay material is glued in. Once the glue has cured the excess is cut off.

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Then the ends can be trimmed and we have a ring billet ready to use.

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To make the ring the proper length of the billet is cut off along with any other pieces that are needed to make the finished part.

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And here is the finished product after they have been glued up and trim cut.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:13 am 
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Sir,

I assume that "dot-dash" rings are done the same way...with large grooves for the "dashes" and thinner grooves for the "dots?"

Assuming that a good chunk of rings are laid into phenolic or wood of some type...is there a "minimum" width of the base material required...for structure purposes?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:24 am 
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I believe most of those are inlaid. I'm not a fancy ring guy but there are several that are lurking around here. Hopefully one of them will jump in.

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Sir,

I assume that "dot-dash" rings are done the same way...with large grooves for the "dashes" and thinner grooves for the "dots?"

Assuming that a good chunk of rings are laid into phenolic or wood of some type...is there a "minimum" width of the base material required...for structure purposes?

Mark <---likes nice rings

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:59 am 
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8-ball Rat wrote:
Sir,

I assume that "dot-dash" rings are done the same way...with large grooves for the "dashes" and thinner grooves for the "dots?"

Assuming that a good chunk of rings are laid into phenolic or wood of some type...is there a "minimum" width of the base material required...for structure purposes?

Mark <---likes nice rings

Mark, if you mean like Ron Haley's rings, those are inlaid. Dennis does that, too.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:17 pm 
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8-ball Rat wrote:
Sir,

I assume that "dot-dash" rings are done the same way...with large grooves for the "dashes" and thinner grooves for the "dots?"

Assuming that a good chunk of rings are laid into phenolic or wood of some type...is there a "minimum" width of the base material required...for structure purposes?

Mark <---likes nice rings


Hey Mark....
What Murray has shown you here is the basic design for a 24 slot billet. Depending on the slot width cut into the base material will determine how much material is left between the bottom of the slots on the male/host piece. IMO...since rings built in this fashion are more of a deco type item on the cue than a base structural item, you can cut the slots at any width as long as the male piece stays intact when assembling the billet. As mentioned, most of the dot/dash type rings seen today are done on a panto or a cnc type machine. But yes, you could achieve this same design by using your imagination and a little handy work using slot configurations and/or material type used in the slots also.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:08 pm 
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Does anyone have a closeup pic of the Searing "orange crush" rings. They are pretty decorative and cut as three pieces; two wood and one ivory.

I'll post it tonight if no one beats me to it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:28 pm 
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I think your "series" of how it's made is a fantabulous idea, III.

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Mucho thanks for the answers to my question. Inlaid dot-dash rings???...sounds like a pain in the arse to me...especially if they're supposed to be centered, even, and straight.

If it doesn't throw too many wrenches in the works, I'd love to see a picture of that type of decorative ring, in the build process. I don't know that I've ever seen one being made...or the machinery required to make it.

Mark <---gots some learnin' to do

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Great series Mr.Tucker, its great that people can come to a sight like this and learn about their favorite hobby.......


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Great series Mr.Tucker, its great that people can come to a sight like this and learn about their favorite hobby.......


I agree. Hopefully in a few short days I will have enough knowledge to become a great cuemaker with lots of orders and a very very long delivery time :P

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Thanks for taking the time to do this series, this is some great information and instruction. I am going to book mark these video's to show customers how this is done, I think that this will givemany a better appreciation for what they are paying for when when they order a cue.

Oh and by the way, I am certainly in awe of the equipment you are using. I have to do everything the old fashion way using my router on the tool post of my Porper B Lathe. Well maybe some day I can purchase a smaller model of what you are using.

Thanks again, and like I said above I really appreciate what you are doing.

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Murray, I am curious about the math necessary to determine the width of the slots and how to determine the space between each slot. Can you give a quick explanation. Exact details are not necessary.

Thanks in advance.

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Short video of Making Billets:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAK_yC7LYSQ


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Hey Alton....I'm getting an error on the video. Maybe it's just me?

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BarenbruggeCues wrote:
Hey Alton....I'm getting an error on the video. Maybe it's just me?


Sorry..
I tried it just before I posted the link..
it was working...
Now, like you said , it has an "Error" Message..

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