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Week 5: Veneered Points- Overlap Method
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Author:  ScottR [ Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:47 am ]
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BarenbruggeCues wrote:
Aren't we moving into week 7 or 8 by now? 8)

In the interim, you could start a thread on making those "rings of saturn" designs. 8)

I found them in my "archives" if you'd allow me to post them.

Scott

Author:  BarenbruggeCues [ Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:13 am ]
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ScottR wrote:
BarenbruggeCues wrote:
Aren't we moving into week 7 or 8 by now? 8)

In the interim, you could start a thread on making those "rings of saturn" designs. 8)

I found them in my "archives" if you'd allow me to post them.

Scott

Hey Scott........Go for it..I'm trying to remember what they are?

Author:  Michael Webb [ Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:12 pm ]
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ScottR wrote:
BarenbruggeCues wrote:
Aren't we moving into week 7 or 8 by now? 8)

In the interim, you could start a thread on making those "rings of saturn" designs. 8)

I found them in my "archives" if you'd allow me to post them.

Scott


That's definately grown up material.

Author:  shoutout33 [ Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:33 pm ]
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I know...wasn't being serious.

Author:  Murray Tucker [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:05 am ]
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I'll get this back on track Wed. I think instead of naming them by weeks I'll do segments instead. That way if I have another screwed up week it won't throw us off.

Author:  BarenbruggeCues [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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Murray Tucker wrote:
I'll get this back on track Wed. I think instead of naming them by weeks I'll do segments instead. That way if I have another screwed up week it won't throw us off.


Way to hide the forum slacking evidence :!: :arrow: :mrgreen:

Author:  Murray Tucker [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:49 pm ]
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People have actually wanted to by stuff the last week. Funny how that screws up my forum fvcking off time.

BarenbruggeCues wrote:

Way to hide the forum slacking evidence :!: :arrow: :mrgreen:

Author:  BarenbruggeCues [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:06 pm ]
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Murray Tucker wrote:
People have actually wanted to by stuff the last week. Funny how that screws up my forum fvcking off time.

BarenbruggeCues wrote:

Way to hide the forum slacking evidence :!: :arrow: :mrgreen:


LOL.......I feel your pain.

Author:  ThomasWayne [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:35 pm ]
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I was visiting Jerry Franklin at his shop in the late 80's (we were going to go skiing on Lake Mead that day) and saw him making points exactly the way Murray has detailed here. I was kind of surprised at the wastefulness of throwing away a full 50% of the exotic wood center point, so I told him how I'd been doing it - which was to bond my veneers to ALL FOUR SIDES of the center block, and then bandsaw the blocks on a compound diagonal to create two points from every veneered block.

Jerry literally had a forehead-slapping moment of clarity, but I don't know if he ever actually changed to doing it that way.

It requires building a special sliding jig for your bandsaw that allows you to slice the point layup on an unusual angle, but with four blocks you get two four-point cues worth of point sets. Since I nearly always choose my center blocks out of highly figured (and therefore rare) wood, I got a more efficient yield and essentially double my point output - for very little additional effort.

Thomas Wayne

Author:  ScottR [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:55 pm ]
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ThomasWayne wrote:
I was visiting Jerry Franklin at his shop in the late 80's (we were going to go skiing on Lake Mead that day) and saw him making points exactly the way Murray has detailed here. I was kind of surprised at the wastefulness of throwing away a full 50% of the exotic wood center point, so I told him how I'd been doing it - which was to bond my veneers to ALL FOUR SIDES of the center block, and then bandsaw the blocks on a compound diagonal to create two points from every veneered block.

Jerry literally had a forehead-slapping moment of clarity, but I don't know if he ever actually changed to doing it that way.

It requires building a special sliding jig for your bandsaw that allows you to slice the point layup on an unusual angle, but with four blocks you get two four-point cues worth of point sets. Since I nearly always choose my center blocks out of highly figured (and therefore rare) wood, I got a more efficient yield and essentially double my point output - for very little additional effort.

Thomas Wayne

Do you miss getting the book match look of the points doing it this way?

Scott

Author:  ThomasWayne [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:02 pm ]
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ScottR wrote:
Do you miss getting the book match look of the points doing it this way?

Scott


Not if you're paying attention.

Label each point block for sequence (and which end is which) and use the same relative halves in one cue. You get two sets of points. If you haven't been drinking and don't mix them up (and if you keep them in sequence) you get two cues that each have book matched points.

Easy peasy.

Thomas Wayne

Author:  Murray Tucker [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:09 pm ]
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Oh crap! I missed Wednesday again. I'll put up what I have and add later.

Author:  Jack Flanagan [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:17 pm ]
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Murray Tucker wrote:
Oh crap! I missed Wednesday again. I'll put up what I have and add later.


Hmmm...could this be caused by "cuemaker time" ?

,
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J...retired an on nobody's time... :mrgreen:

Author:  ScottR [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Week 5: Veneered Points- Overlap Method

ThomasWayne wrote:
ScottR wrote:
Do you miss getting the book match look of the points doing it this way?

Scott


Not if you're paying attention.

Label each point block for sequence (and which end is which) and use the same relative halves in one cue. You get two sets of points. If you haven't been drinking and don't mix them up (and if you keep them in sequence) you get two cues that each have book matched points.

Easy peasy.

Thomas Wayne

Dohhhh!!!!! Thanks for the explanation.

Scott <<== should have thought a little more....

Author:  Murray Tucker [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:20 pm ]
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I'm trying to get fired but it is not working.

Jack Flanagan wrote:
Hmmm...could this be caused by "cuemaker time" ?

,
,

J...retired an on nobody's time... :mrgreen:

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